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CheerfulChirps

The situation itself doesn't seem that extreme, but since you were the one experiencing it, I suppose I can't judge you or your manager. If it was an important phone call, would it had made a difference to how you felt?

How often do you get a lot of customers all at once? Your manager might not teach you how to organize the clothes if there is no need to. I would seriously suggest that you being it up to your manager again. That way, both of you can do it in a rush.

Chicken Flinger

WHOA! Could you be more condescending about an aspect of your manager that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the frustrating situation? I know it is frustrating and annoying to be the grunt of someone's rage when they are the ones in the wrong. But honestly? Her being fat had NOTHING to do with the situation she put herself in, took out on you and you know it.

I imagine you would be horribly offended if I made a similar rant, perhaps about you as a potential coworker, that you wouldn't stop being such a SKINNY FRIGGIN BITCH WHO CANT STOP COUNTING THE calories in that F*CKING CELERY STICK and has to make a FRIGGIN TRIP TO THE bathroom every FIVE F*CKING MINUTES to go STICK YOUR FINGER DOWN YOUR THROAT! See? No relevance to the situation and completely made of assumptions, not facts. Skinny people can be asshat bitches too- weight/appearance has no relevance and maybe you should learn to deal with this thinking because I can guran-damn-tee you it will get you in trouble someday.

Just sayin' you know.

Logan

Wow, must be the last twos first visit to the site. Don't seem to understand where they are and what the site is about. It's a rant people not group therapy, and not don't worry, be happy, let's all get along land.

kstar

i'm with team rant here, this site is about being able to bitch about your shitty experiences in retail in a more or less uncensored way. this is an outlet for all the frustration that we feel in our jobs, frustration that perhaps we cannot express any other way, or to any other audience.

if these rants aren't your style, don't read them! for more watered down accounts of retail funnies and frustrations, try www.notalwaysright.com

Blaaaaah

Ranting is all fine and good, but said ranter seems to focus on her manager's weight, and that's just not cool. Bitch all you want about her lame work ethic, and maybe a little fat wank, but every freaking line is her eating, her being fat, this and that. It just ruined the rant and made said ranter come off as judgmental without cause. :/

Chicken Flinger

Logan and kstar... lmao! I've written two articles here on RHU. So no, I'm not some uninformed noob like you so think.

I realize this site is for ranting in an uncensored way- however the ranter focuses on a completely unrelated aspect of the manager to the story. Now if the manager had been sitting at the front counter not doing her work because she was busy shoveling in her chicken bucket or something, then I could understand why it might be mentioned.

But every other line mentioning her appearance when that has nothing to do with the situation is just ignorance and immaturity. As I said, if the ranter isn't careful, that insensitivity and poor attitude will, without a doubt, get them in trouble someday soon.


I think Blaaaaah said it perfectly.

Logan

"As I said, if the ranter isn't careful, that insensitivity and poor attitude will, without a doubt, get them in trouble someday soon."

That is why the ranters rant here. To blow off steam, so they don't blow up at the idiots and can keep a good attitude at work.

For the record, my sister is extremely obese and knows it. When she rants about stupid customers, she normally uses terms like 'fat bitch' and moving their 'fat ass' etc.

I think that many of the people that don't understand peoples rants on here or think they are out of line, are the same type of customers, managers and coworkers that the others are complaining about. Seeing a bit too much of yourself in the stories??

Logan

Oh, I didn't make my point that a 'rant' by it's very purpose does not need to stick to the aspects that have to do with the situation, or find a solution to the problem (ie. "I would seriously suggest that you being it up to your manager")

Rant: "A rant or harangue is a speech or text that does not present a well-researched and calm argument; rather, it is typically an attack on an idea, a person or an institution, and very often lacks proven claims. Such attacks are usually personal attacks. Compare with a dialectic.

In some cases, rants can be based on partial fact, or may be entirely factual but written in a comedic/satirical form."

Chicken Flinger

"Seeing a bit too much of yourself in the stories??"

Wow, pot calling the kettle black there, aren't we! You sure are a pretentious little thing, aren't you?

I'm not an idiot, I know what a rant is but thanks for the unnecessary lesson! I do appreciate you wasted your time on me to hit a google button. I apologize that you can't recognize that my responses to this rant are 'rants' as well- an attack on a person or idea. Like the idea of someone using a person's appearance against them when it has no pertinence to the situation.

Freedom of speech, right? The ranter can rant about the bitchy manager, I can rant about how I don't like the way the ranter ranted.

If the ranter were bitching about the manager because she was black instead of obese, the reaction would be so much different. But because the ranter complains about the obesity of the manager and not her skin color, suddenly it's alright and acceptable.

And I'm not sure what your obese sister has to do with this...?

Logan

"Like the idea of someone using a person's appearance against them when it has no pertinence to the situation."

Again the definition of a rant means that it does not need to have pertinence to the situation, does not need to be calm or well thought out.

"I'm not an idiot, I know what a rant is but thanks for the unnecessary lesson!"

Apparently you don't, because even after the 'unnecessary lesson' you still seem to think that all parts of a rant need to be pertinent to the situation. You will notice that 95% of the rants on here go off on tangents and insults that are not 'pertinent to the situation'.

Logan

You will notice that one post complained about a welfare bitch and her rude behavior. Did the fact that the woman was using food stamps have to do with her rude behavior?? No, it is not pertinent to the situation. It is what we call a "Rant"!

Chicken Flinger

Thanks again. Really, you can stop wasting your time now!

I already mentioned that my comments here were ALSO RANTS. Hence, if I am ranting, by definition, I can go off on a tangent if I damn well please. And if I want to rant that I don't think it has pertinence, then I can!

I find it amusing how you continually try to correct me about what a rant is when I already clarified that I myself am ranting.

But if you feel the need to try and correct me again, go ahead. You're also ranting.


Let's just agree to disagree and stop acting like piggy customers. BOTH of us.

Logan

Well this site is for retail slaves to rant about annoying customers, managers, coworkers. Not a site to rant against rants made by retail slaves. You are of course within your rights to do so, but you need to expect to see those types of rants here and expect to be corrected when you expect rants to "have pertinence to the situation". Perhaps a site to rant about other peoples rants is more your speed, but even then it would be rants and would not need to be pertinent to the situation. So how could you rant that a rant isn't pertinent to the situation when a rant doesn't need to be so. Circular logic. Perhaps you need a site for logical discourse of employee complaints. Maybe try retailheckaboveground.com.

Logan

" And if I want to rant that I don't think it has pertinence, then I can!"

So you want to rant, that a rant doesn't have pertinence, even though a rant doesn't need to?????

Okay, let me try a different angle. A debate is very different from a rant, with different rules. If you are in a debate and someone disagrees with you, you can claim that they are not allowed to disagree with you. It would be pointed out that it is a debate and they are supposed to disagree with you and argue their point. Your arguement would be "I realize it is a debate, I am debating when I say that they are not allowed to debate me." When in fact that is what a debate is about???

So you were ranting yourself when you said that they should not be ranting on here?? (Doesn't make much sense does it?)

Logan

Excuse the multi posts. New ideas keep coming to me.

"I already mentioned that my comments here were ALSO RANTS. Hence, if I am ranting, by definition, I can go off on a tangent if I damn well please. And if I want to rant that I don't think it has pertinence, then I can!"

You're ranting that a rant doesn't have pertinence even though a rant by definition doesn't have pertinence.

So you claim that you understand what a rant is (that it doesn't need to be pertinent to the situation). You claim that you know that this is a place for rants, yet you complain that the person rant doesn't have pertinence to the situation??

Do you also go to porn sites and complain about the dirty pictures on the porn site, but if you use dirty pictures to complain about the dirty pictures,your arguement somehow makes more sense?

Chicken Flinger

Lmao. Way to go completely off topic. My whole original point was that I thought the ranter was unjustly cruel about something that had nothing to do with the situation- a comment I am justified in making and have the right to make.

You're off in some other dimension now, calling an apple an orange and an orange a pear. If you want to keep arguing your point, go ahead but I've moved on from the situation. Maybe you might want to consider doing so as well.

But by all means, continue ranting if you so please. Or debating. Or whatever you're calling it now (I found it hard to pay attention after the second sentence of the first post).

Have a lovely day! Tata!! :-)

Ash

i just read the word "rant" so many times that it sounds funny now lol

S. Nicole

hahah!Thanks Logan, you are my hero and make very valid points :). i wrote this rant. at the time i myself was not skinny-most of you are assuming a skinny girl said this how do you know? just because i commented so much on her weight does not mean i am judgmental, etc. in fact i am the most open minded person i know. granted give me credit-i kept this rant INSIDE if i was such a horrriiibbbllleee person i wouldve said all this shit to her face. this rant was only one of many i had from this manager, by that time i was clearly fed up.
i mean you clearly can be in traffic and some asshole can cut you off and you-without thinking may go to insult the asshole as a homo, or a racial slur even if you didnt see the person who cut you off right?
its just how i express myself. just like you are allowed to have your opinion about MY rant-well MY rant was MY opinion. but thank you for commenting :) :) and UBER props to Logan

Logan

"My whole original point was that I thought the ranter was unjustly cruel about something that had nothing to do with the situation"

I thought you said that you understood that every part of a rant doesn't need to have to do with the situation (and often contain personal attacks). In fact you have stated that you understood that on numerous occasions, yet you still go back to it.

"But by all means, continue ranting if you so please. Or debating. Or whatever you're calling it now."

I didn't start calling it anything different. I was pointing out the differences between a rant and a debate (sorry if it was over your head).

"(I found it hard to pay attention after the second sentence of the first post)."

That has been made abundantly clear!

Chicken Flinger

Lmao. Please do continue wasting your time trying to make me 'see the light'. Not really sure why you keep dredging this up now, it's old stuff now.

If your egotistical mind needs to read it to be happy/quiet/elated/et cetera then fine, I'll relent since you so obviously desire.

"oh logaan, thnk u fer shoin me n tllin me the rite way 2 rant!! i wud be so lost without u arownd 2 currect me whn im rong! plz dunt evar chng cuz u r all noin! i prmz nvr 2 pont out wut i thnk evar agn!! at leest not arown u cuz it uhfenz u. i so sowwy grut n pwrfl logaaaan!!!!"

Happy now? *grin*
Seriously though, can't you be mature and agree to disagree, letting bygones be bygones, even this one time? Is this REALLY a cause worth all your time and effort? Wouldn't you be happier to read about bitchy custies, piggy shoppers and mutilated Christmas songs?

emeff

"i mean you clearly can be in traffic and some asshole can cut you off and you-without thinking may go to insult the asshole as a homo, or a racial slur even if you didnt see the person who cut you off right?"

This has to be a troll, right? No one would really think racist, homophobic behavior is relatable, and call themselves open-minded at the same time, would they? And they wouldn't use it in defense of a rant that was out of line, but not nearly as bad as the defense itself, right?

Come on. My best guess is that it has to be Chicken Flinger, trying to make Logan look bad for supporting that unnecessarily hateful rant. It's just too crazy. I mean, be mad at your stupid, lazy manager, but fat has nothing to do with it. Being an ignorant asshole doesn't make you look better.

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