Burger Bitch's Friday Idiot Parade

Hey, everyone!

Sorry that I’ve been seriously lacking on posting rants, but work has been really, well, boring. Not that I’m complaining or anything, since my manager has me working a lot more afternoon shifts, that way I don’t have to work with my Cunt coworker, but afternoons are very dead.

However, the idiots always tend to come out during the afternoons, especially on Fridays. I was called in early today, which was fine because I could always use the extra hours. But since I don’t usually start until three, I had everything done really early and then just chatted with the girl working on the gas station side and got a bit of reading done.

The first idiot happened to come through DT when I was outside getting some cookies out of the freezer. My headset dinged, and I responded with the normal “What can I get you?” speech. The woman asked me if we had any lemon filled donuts left, so I said “Let me just run inside and check for you.” No problem, until she came to the window.

Her: “I don’t think you should be allowed to smoke at work.”

Me: “Pardon?”

Her: “You were outside smoking, which then made me wait, I think it’s ridiculous.”

Me: “Uhm. I don’t smoke, I was outside in the freezer getting cookies..”

Her: “Whatever, that’s a terrible excuse.”

And she drove off. I have never been more confused in my life. What? And even if I was a smoker, that would be none of her fucking business. What the fuck?

About an hour later, a man comes through DT and orders a large tea. No biggie, I figured that would be an easy order. But of course not. I hand him out his tea and go to collect his change when he says “This isn’t a large.”

Me: “… Yes, it is.”

Him: “No it’s not! I asked for a large!”

Me: “It is a large, sir.”

Him: “I don’t think so, Tim Horton’s larges are bigger.”

Me: “… This isn’t Tim Horton’s.”

Him: “Well, you should have the same sizes!”

And then I proceeded to hand him his change and walk away, he continued ranting for at least 3 minutes.

Now, I have a question for you guys and I hope you can help me a bit. Every week, I have lunch with my two friends at our favourite restaurant however, my one friend is the shittiest tipper ever. Now, I know that tipping isn’t mandatory, but I know what it’s like to have to live off of tips. Plus, if the service is good, they deserve a fucking tip. Last week, AwesomeGirl and I each just had small appetizers and drinks, wince we weren’t very hungry, while BadTipper had a milkshake, a full meal plus dessert. The waitress was very polite, always on top of refills and asking if we needed anything. My bill came to a little over $10, so I left 15$ and about the same with AwesomeGirl, which is fairly decent. However, and this really got me pissed. BadTipper’s bill was 25$ and how much did she leave? $25.75. Seriously

SERIOUSLY!

We’ve even talked to her about it before, but she told us that she just “Doesn’t tip.” When she got up to go to the washroom before we left, AwesomeGirl and I went in search of our waitress and gave her another $3, just because that’s all we had, and we apologized for our friend. The waitress thanked us profusely and said that she really appreciated it.

But I was wondering what you guys would do and what you think? Or should we just leave it? I just don’t even know.

Stay sane,

--Burger Bitch

Comments

[The Last Archimedean]

Hey, BB! Nice to see another one of your posts, they're always awesome.

And I'm very glad you don't have to deal with C*** anymore.

As for the idiots, not much you can do about people being stupid. "Think about how stupid the average person is -- and rememner that half of 'em are stupider than THAT!" Just smile and let it roll off your shoulders.

As for badTipper: maybe stop eating with her? Or tell her you won't go with her unless she tips properly? UOther than that, I'm out of suggestions.

Who besides me thought immediately of the opening scene of Reservoir Dogs?

Stay sane, BB. We RHU'ers are all supporting you!

[Mjay]

I have a friend who used to tip by doubling the 6 percent tax. I told her that 12 percent is a shtty tip. She finallly got it. Personally, I would not be able to be friends with people who treat retail/ wait staff with such disdain.

[Chicajojobe]

Well as for the waitress, I think she was probably just fine considering you and Awesome Girl left almost a 50% tip each!

I don't know if in Canada they can pay people who get tips less than minimum wage like they can in the States, but if that's the case. I always found that thinking someone might literally be living off 4.50 an hour a very compelling argument.

[Michael Chandra]

Tell her why tips really matter, and why it's ridiculous she doesn't tip well even on really good service? And if she doesn't listen, it's a bit harsh and easy for us to say "I'm sorry but unless you're willing to treat waitresses properly, I refuse to go with you to a place where we should tip", but that is what you should do.

What was it again? "Ladies, if he's nice to you but not to the staff, he's not nice at all."

[Cell-Circuit Chick]

@Chicajojobe- In my province, at least, servers make min. wage like the rest of us ($10/hr) and employers are not allowed to pay less. So, tipping isn't that big of a deal and I don't feel awful if I don't tip.

That being said, when one does tip, the standard tip in my area is around $4-$5. No one really bases on percentage, here.

[Evie]

I usually tell my bad-tipper friends that I'm sick and tired of having to fucking come behind them and add more money to make up for their lack of decency. And if they insist on ruining every fun meal by being jerks at the end, then we can just go to a fast-food joint when we go out.

[Queer Geek]

Love how idiot custys say the damndest things!

As for your non-tipping friend BB, I agree with Archimedean. If Badtipper doesn't believe in giving tips on excellent service, then don't take that person to restaurants where there is a server. I hate to say it but if they're going to be a douche or a tightwad, then fast food is the way to go. See everybody wins...I think. Well maybe not for the other Burger slaves...

[Canadiana]

@Cell-Circuit Chick - damn, what province do you live in?? I'm a server in Ontario and we make $8.90 an hour, while minimum wage is $10.75... the government expects that we make at least 10% for tips so we get paid less!

[RHUN00B]

Ask your shitty-tipper friend to put herself in the server's shoes. Treat others the way you want to be treated, after all.

Also, as I'm sure you already realize, consistent bad tipping/bad behavior leads to a considerably diminished quality in service. I have regulars who never tip, and while I obviously can't just be downright mean to them, I make it a point not to go the extra mile to give them great service. I don't smile as much, I give curt responses to small talk, and perhaps I won't check on them as much. Some might argue I've trapped myself in an endless cycle of bad service/bad tip, but these people weren't tipping even when I spoiled them!

So tell her it will be all-around better for everyone if she leaves a decent tip. It might be just a few extra dollars for her, but those dollars make someone else's livelihood. Plus, the bottom line is that if you can't afford to leave a tip, then you really can't afford to go out to eat. That's the only advice I can offer without telling you to be a jerk to your friend.

[Foozy]

The total bill was 45 dollars and you left 10.75. That is a more than adequate tip. Then you added on 3 more dollars, making it a 30% tip.

If I was your friend I wouldn't tip either- you clearly have no problem overtipping, and it more than cancels out their undertipping!

[Sophia]

"Overtipping" is certainly NOT a problem Fooz. It is a reward for good service and is commendable. I feel for BB but I don't think I could be friends with someone who insists on treating people that way. Personally, I would end the relationship. As my Grandma Stella used to say, "You can always judge character by the way a person treats breakfast waitresses and stray dogs".

[Dev]

I agree with everyone that said don't take her to places where you have to tip, and tell her exactly why. I personally would stop going out with her all together, but I'm bitchy.

[Foozy]

I didnt say overtipping was a problem. I said that this person clearly has no problem doing it, and since their tip already made for a more-than-adequate tip (over 20%!), why should this other person be chided for not contributing one of their own? The final tip was *30%*. That's a huge tip! You're overspending, and you're basically mad at this person because they don't also overspend when with you. It makes no sense. They harmed nobody. They didn't make the tip less than the minimum of 15% by not tipping.

[Retail Pirate]

Since the service was good, they should have left a better tip. However, there is always the possibility that your friend wasn't satisfied with the service they recieved. If that was the case, they would have the right not to tip, although your post didn't lead me to believe that was the case.

[Mir]

Don't invite your friend out anymore in a restaurant setting. If she invites you say no. Don't associate her with bad feelings about tipping so just don't even eat out with her anymore. If she asks why you won't go out to eat with her you are welcome to explain how her total disregard to the waitstaff isn't something you appreciate in her character. I make $2.14 an hour and can't get a "real" job like society wants me to, so I do get upset for providing happy out of my ass excellent service and getting less than I make an hour in tips. Fuck that, seriously.

[NC Tony]

I agree with everyone else who said to not go out to eat with her anymore. I also agree with whoever it was that said to ask her to put herself in the servers place. How would she feel if her customers were the kind of people that just "don't tip"?

[Burger Bitch]

Foozy; You're an idiot. I usually tip the average percentage, but since the waitress was awesome, I tipped more.

But what YOU'RE saying is that I should always over-tip so she can always under tip? What? Dumbass.

[Queer Geek]

I think some people missed the post of BB's story. The fact that Badtipper left less than 10% of a tip with a few cents in their pocket is inconsiderate. Now if the service was lousy, then I understand about not leaving a tip but the fact that BB and another person had to add more to cover a decent tip for the third party is just plain wrong. Basically Badtipper needs to stop eating at restaurants where the servers rely on tips for their paycheck. Like said before, order fast food to go. It saves everybody the pain.

[Vaholly]

Maybe this makes me a horrible person, but I get really sick of this "tipping" conversation. I have had friends leave pennies. They were not rude to the person, the person was rude to them. I don't care if the waitstaff makes less than X amount of dollars, it should be the employers job to make up the money. If I leave two dollars, that is my business.

[exodus]

Since tipping is not mandatory, what your friend chooses to do is their business. If you felt the need to add more to cover for them, that was your business as well. Asking about what is right v wrong become personal opinions on the matter and unlikely to get any real results in put to an actual test. Also since this site is read by people in other countries/states/provinces, tipping becomes more convoluted.
Personally I think if it bothers you, then go with the main voice of, stop taking this person to places where one needs to tip.
I also just wanted to say, if you don't agree with someones post, it is not necessary to call them names. Just point out the reasons of your disagreement and leave it.

[Pagemaster]

Perhaps to get it through to your friend that her behavior is rude, let her know you'd love to hang out with her...just not for meals and be honest about why. It's rude, and embarrassing to be associated with her crappy attitude and lack of any sense of compassion.

Frankly, I tend to judge my companions personalities heavily based on how they treat the 'little people' who serve them. If it be at a bookstore, a super center, or wait staff. Poor treatment of the common worker is a huge 'off' button for me and I've found that these friends also had tenancies to be shitty friend over all and my relationship with them doesn't last long. Same with the potential partners deal, a guy who leaves a 75 cent tip on a $25 meal? I won't be seeing him again that's for sure.

[Burger Bitch]

I pretty much love how this used to be a decent place to rant and get opinions. However now, I ask for opinions and instead of getting them, I just get ridicule.

Goooood times.

[penneyslut]

BB, I would wait, and the next time that said friend is in-between or looking for jobs,subtly suggest she works as waitstaff. She'll probably learn very quickly how shitty it is to not get tips for good service.

[Queer Geek]

We still love you BB!

[Framer-Fatal]

I'd be honest. I'd say "I'd rather not go to places with wait staff anymore. Being with a bad tipper is kind of embarrassing, and I always spend more money to cover for you as an apology for your rude behavior. Servers around here don't even make minimum wage, so I'm not comfortable eating out with you."

It hurts, but it's the truth; I won't eat out with my grandma because she treats wait staff like children and snaps her fingers at them. It makes me want to die. It's not a very good birthday gift if I have to fake going to the bathroom to pull the wait staff aside and apologize for her nasty behavior, then pay for my "gift".

[L]

Hmmm, your friend doesn't have to tip, but they don't have to serve her either!

[Cell-Circuit Chick]

The way I read BB's story was not so much that the friend was a crappy tipper (which she was) but that it seemed like she thought she could get out of tipping because you and your other friend tipped. That would make me even more frustrated, if that were the case, as I would feel like my friend would be taking advantage of me.

@Canadiana : I live in Nova Scotia.

[candieaddict]

I wonder, if it's possible, that your friend didn't tip well because they didn't have enough? In that sense, it'd be reasonable, as in their meal was a bit more than they expected.

But BB since you covered it I think this time around it's good to let it go and wait until next time before letting it bother you more.

[Natasha]

It's her choice, yeah it sucks but it still is :/

[CallMeRed]

One memember of my group of friends was even a bigger douche. At the end of the meal we would each put our share of the bill+tip in a pile. Douche would keep track and if the total was enough HE WOULDN'T EVEN PAY IN FOR HIS ORDER, much less a tip! Yep, our attempt to tip our waitperson became the rest of us paying for douche's food! (We stopped letting him join us).

[RHUN00B]

Burger Bitch: I do hope you keep us updated on your adventures and progress with the shitty-tipper friend. I must admit I'm intrigued!

[Shannah]

I guess I see it more as: who do I enjoy hanging out with, and under what circumstances? If this person is making you unhappy, I don't think you need to necessarily decide to stop going places with them. Just only go when you actually feel like going with them, and choose other people to hang out with otherwise.

I used to hang out with someone who was really judgmental, and would make comments about the venue, the staff, my appearance, their appearance, etc. I didn't intentionally choose, on a certain day, to stop hanging out with him.

I just eventually realized it was more fun hanging out with other folks, so I did that. Haven't seen this guy in more than 5 years. I'm guessing he misses me about as much as I miss him (not much at all.)

So it doesn't have to be a negative confrontational thing. If they are a blast if you all go, say, shooting each other with paintballs, do that rather than going to dinner. If someone else is more fun at dinner, take them instead.

You might also find that over time, they change, maybe mature a bit, and turn into someone you like more, and then you haven't drawn a line in the sand, and ended the relationship.

Confronting someone once or twice is fine, but if you're constantly having an issue with them over a certain thing, time to suit yourself and make other choices.

Burger Bitch, you seem like a sensible person, and I think you've done the best you can. Some people just don't want to adapt.

[Queer Geek]

@Callmered

I so relate to this! I've been with out eating with a group of friends and when it came time to pay the bill, always someone tries to dine and dash meaning everyone pays up except for the one person who tries to make the rest of the party pay for them. You're in the right to not invite those moochers who spoil it for everybody.

[Fein]

If someone tried to pull the "dine and dash" on me I'd call the waitperson back over, loudly explain the situation, and ask for separate checks (and tip extra to thank them for the extra work). Hopefully the numbskull would be humiliated into not doing that anymore. If not, I would know to ask for separate checks in advance any other times we went out (and by "separate" I mean, "We're all on one, and HE'S on his own.")

Also, I'm a chronic overtipper. If I'm dining alone at a cheap-ish establishment, I'll tip 100% or more, but I almost never tip less than 30%. If someone took advantage of what should've been my extra gift to the waitress to write off having to tip on their own, I would tell that person in no uncertain terms what I thought of them (not much) and stop hanging out with them. Everyone should pay and tip independently of everybody else.

Also, anyone who routinely undertipped, I would just stop hanging out with, full-stop.

[1117]

I think most Canadian provinces/territories pay their waitresses minimum wage, with the exception of Quebec paying between $7.25 to $9.00

I only tip for really good service. My hubby doesn't tip at all, ever. It's not like the waitresses are being paid ridiculously low wages.

Thinking about it, there are some places in Canada I've been to where nobody tipped at all.

[:/]

Maybe have take up a waitressing job part time and see how she feels about people who simply don't tip.

[couponie]

looks like fast food for lunch from now on for your group

[Ghassn]

Sounds like you could go in a lot of different dieontircs Just tossing out some suggestions: Insurance you could try a sales or broker role. With some training and your sales experience, it's not too much of a stretch. Real estate agent still selling, but slightly more on your own terms. Tough markets right now though. Office management role might be hard to get your foot in the door, but you could emphasize your variety of experiences which would enable you to understand the workings of an office sales, tech, operations, etc. A bit of a different track, but how about something like becoming a police detective? The skills are different but seem complementary to yours working with people, some clerical work, a little bit technical investigations, etc.A bit cheesy, but you could also try one of those free online career quizzes to see if they generate a good idea or two. Just Google career quiz or career test. Good luck!

[Marianne]

I have been doing retail sales (selling mtaertss's) for about 4 years now. company is going to a shaky decisions not quite sure what my future will be here. I like selling but I hate to politics of it. I want to switch to another career. My previous experiences are clerical, heavy customer service, little bit of techncal training(installing/troubleshooting computers and networks. and yeah a little bit of banking (more in the operations side: clerical and administratative).. what is a good career to transition to?

[Matty]

I flew Australia to Malaysia and was very satisfied with the seirvce although the price of my ticket dropped by $100 after I bought it. You pay for the food, only get a 15kg luggage allowance that you have to subsidize, but it got me there just fine. If you're looking for no frills flying, they were great. I heard that within Asia the planes are more cramped and the seirvce is crappier but long-haul was ok. Also, although Malaysian immigration's website doesn't mention it, at the counter in Australia they ask you for confirmation of onward travel aka details and an itinerary of proof that you're exiting Malaysia. I didn't have this but I had a Canadian passport so they made some calls and got me through ok and if you're flying on an Israeli passport you're not allowed in Malaysia.

[Yoli]

As a small business who took a cacnhe and saw Groupon as a way of marketing, we got slammed. We were assured that the Groupon demographic was young. in-the-know and a great customer to attract. What we found the very next day was a Groupon customer who only wanted a deal.And despite stipulations saying it was 1 groupon per table per visit, we had NUMEROUS patrons feel it was not applicable to them. We had patrons who said they bought the Groupon and flew in from across the country for one specific weekend and why couldn't they get a reservation? We had patrons who felt they didn't need to tip or pay the sales tax.Our staff became frustrated. Our service suffered. We got yelp-raped within the first weekend. And of course, EVERYONE freaked out that the groupon was expiring and didn't understand why even though they had 6-months to do so, why couldn't they redeem the Groupon all on the very last day of the offer?All in all, one hell of a experience that simply just did not pay off. Does anyone know of a Groupon Merchant forum??? Reply

[Marc]

I needed to renew my psrapost. I sent in the application at the end of February. I still have not received it, get a recording when I call the 800 number, push a lot of buttons to get an answer and finally a recorded voice says good bye. I emailed to track it, and all I got was a reply several days later that it was in New Hampshire somewhere. They want us to understand that they have been inundated with applications since going to Canada and Mexico now require a psrapost. Oh, and they are working hard it but please be patient and understanding. Mine is simply a renewal not a new application. I can only imagine what it must be like to get a new one. I hope it comes this year.Good luck with the driver's license. Try calling your state rep or state senator's office. That sometimes makes things happen faster.

[Demi]

I wonder if there is a way of meaisrung where else the money was spent, apart from retail?BAS statements (GST returns) measure this for every business in the economy. It's one of the reasons we have them.Taking money out of the hands of people who produce wealth & jobs and putting it into the hands of people already on welfare is actually detrimental to the economy. Sure you'll get a sugar-rush of spending if you target the right recipients but it will all be quickly gone. We should always be looking for a way to create wealth, not just spend it.Kill payroll tax and you'll really encourage business to hold employment levels. That puts the money in the hands of job creators and you'll actually be accomplishing some genuine long-term reform while you're at it. Currently we have a $15B/year penalty on employment in this economy (which I expect flows onto exports). If the government insists on spending billions, then put it there.They can trade off the states with an increase in the GST, but defer that increase for a few years. Here's a trick announce an increase in the GST to take effect on July 1 2011 and watch activity spike to beat it like it did in 98/99.

[Arti]

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