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The Last Archimedean

Not your fault some idiot switched the DVD's. You had no idea what was in the case when you rented the movie. Nothing to be embarrassed about.

And that's way cool that your BFF is awesome.

It's actually not surprising that a straight woman would be supportive of the GLBT community. I know quite a few straight WIGGs.

greenie

I would have been more embarssed if I was the clerk at the Blockbuster, I would be worried that the person who got the switched movie would be thinking that I was the one who switched it.

As for women getting turned on by gay men. I have wondered about that as well. I will admit to reading an occasional slash fan fic--and some of them are well written (though most fan fic is pretty much crap) and I have found a few to, be well rather hot. (I like Jack Aubrey/Stephen Maturin ones the best cause I'm a navy geek.)

I don't know why, but I wonder if it is similar to why straight men like to watch lesbian porn, one hot woman is great, but two just doubles the fun? I don't know.

Soft Ice Girl

Queer Geek, would you be so kind and come over in order to clean my laptop? Because on reading "Goodwill Humping" I spat my coffee all over it.. dang..
And as for women who like gay porn: Well, if you like men, then you tend to like more than one. Hetero porn is quite woman-centered- the woman is almost always filmed and looks fine while the man is less important and often looks like a fucking ape, so there are not many hetero films that I like to watch. Gay porn, however, has to be centered on men (duh), so it´s nicer.

carotte

Gay porn is centered on men like soft ice girl said, and, bonus point that I think some girls like (maybe even without realizing), as a girl it makes you feel 'safe' - there's no brutality geared toward women, there's no "the inferior c*** suc*** bi***" role, no objectifying of the women (cause hey, no women).
I know not all straight porn is violent towards women but it must be what 90% of it in some way.

Queer Geek

@carotte

Good point made about porn industry. The sad truth is that the majority of the sex workers in the sex trade are women and sleazy companies take advantage of that by exploiting them even further through degradation and prostitution (face it porn is just another metaphor for the world's oldest profession).

Gay porn is not any different with men (gay, straight, bi) being just as exploited. I joke alot about it but the sad truth is that it's just as detrimental to the homosexual community with advocating unsafe practices like barebacking (non-condom) and reckless sexual behavior.

I admit I am a complete hypocrite. A contradiction in terms since I enjoy reading, watching, and writing erotica but even I draw the line to how people are objectified, abused, and raped. Violence in any form is wrong and there is a difference between passion and desire versus humilation and degradation.

Hellbound Alleee

You wonder why a straight woman would like to watch two hot guys going at it? Is that really a mystery?

Hellbound Alleee

Oh, another thought:

Straight porn is almost exclusively for straight men. There are a lot of really ugly guys in straight porn.

And straight porn for women can be incredibly cheesy. The gay stuff is more fun.

RT Bear

Truthfully, I see nothing wrong with porn - gay, bi or straight - as long as you know what you're renting/buying...the actors do have their own minds & are capable of saying yes or no to any scene...do porn companies sometimes screw over their actors (no pun intended)? Yeah, I'm sure they do, but you can say that about any job, and many here have said it...

And similar to Queer Geek, I had an episode like that once, but it was with my brother...he's a typical jock-type and while he loves me, he'd prefer I not discuss which of his friends I'd like to take to bed...I finally talked him into watching "Too Wong Fu, etc." with me...didn't know my BF at the time switched out the vhs tapes...I started it, then went to get munchies...well, you can imagine the surprise I got when I made it back to the livingroom...took my bro a week to be able to look me in the face again...lol

The Last Archimedean

You read and write erotica, QG? So do I. Short stories. And I don't think you're being hypocritical as long as you don't include anything in your own wrtings that you would be unhappy with people doing in real life.

TychaBrahe

I've heard it argued that lesbian porn, being mostly made by men for the entertainment of men, is not true to what a woman wants/feels during sex.

Diane

Queer Geek - Meaning no offense, but please don't use the word "tranny". A lot of us find it offensive. (I know you didn't mean it that way, and I hesitate to say anything, but... well, I have a big mouth.) Calling us "trans" works just fine, and it's actually shorter.

Queer Geek

@diane

I apologize Diane. I should've been more PC. Transgendered or tran should suffice.

NC Tony

Sleepaway Camp is a guilty pleasure (as are the two sequels starring Bruce Springsteen's sister), and yes, David DeCouteau is a hack.

For more fun info on the Sleepaway Camp series, check out my (no longer updated) site:

http://www.freewebs.com/tms414/stu.htm

Diane

Queer Geek - Apology certainly accepted. Thank you!

Ted the 'Flayer

Gay porn is big in Japan among middle-aged housewives. And I've known several women that really got turned on by gay porn. And I think it's the same reason I like lesbian and gay porn. Visual (one person you are attracted to is good, two is better), and also tone (I can't stand straight porn because in 99% of it there's no tenderness, and the guy treats the woman like an object. That doesn't arouse me in the least). My porn is mostly guy-guy and girl-girl, depending on my mood.

mayamarie

plus its just nice to see two guys be sweet and kissy with each other.

Queer Geek

It's interesting how many females on the forum are honest about is visually pleasing to them.

carotte

It's easier to admit that on the interwebs (made of 85% of porn) than in real life. I once had to tell a friend that there's a huge % of girls attracted by gay porn ( she was working on sexuality & kids, as in how do they learn, what they perceived). From her reaction I wasn't going to tell I've watched that once in a while...
Yaoi I think it's called for gay manga, and yeah, it's huge among teen and young adults too.
But Japan has some weird shit and fetish, the hentai animé/mangas are sometimes quite extreme (tentacles anyone? satanic sex cult?), and I was told that they are big into the whole "rape/crying/violence" (for 'live' porn) which I personally find really disturbing.

NumismaticNerd

@Carotte: Yaoi is MxM hentai anime and manga, and Yuri is FxF hentai. Unfortunately Yaoi is popular among American otaku too. I only say unfortunately because they force (beg plead etc) cosplayers, some who don't know one another, to make out while they take pictures.

Queer Geek

@carotte and Numismaticnerd

I read Yaoi as well for the obvious reasons and own a few shonen-ai/bishonen manga and DVD animes. Sometimes I do have some issues with the portrayal of the uke and seme relationship where the uke is always portrayed as some stereotypical screaming flamboyant queen. I guess this is how the manga writers see BL archetypes as part of a cultural thing. I don't know.

Actually, I prefer the mangas and the animes where the suggestive situations are implied and not shown. I always believed that what you don't see is sexier than what is displayed on screen. Gravitation, Mirage of Blaze, and Kizuna are my faves.

Book Baby

Oooo, did someone say, "Gay Porn"?? I will watch it with you and I am as straight as a highway across Nevada.

FWIW, not all straight porn is all about what men want. Try some of Playgirl's stuff.

KittyKatzchen

I read the words yaoi and erotica and got stoked. I wish I could find my old erotica I wrote. I think the site I posted them on got taken down. :( Sad, because they were really good. Maybe I can rewrite them from memory and put them up on Fetlife.

Queer Geek

Hahahaha! I love how we completely got off topic!

Fortune Cookie

*scribbles down movie titles* Great ideas there. I like watching movies about guys falling in love. Got quite a nice collection already. Most really cheesy, but oh well... :D

The Last Archimedean

I'm straighter than an ancient Roman road, but enjoy watching LOGO movies. Trantasia, To Wong Foo, Latter Days, Kissing Jessica Stein, Dare, Loving Annabelle...

Queer Geek

Oh might I suggest also Beautiful Boxer. It's a foreign film from Thailand and a true story about Nong Toom, a male kickboxer who became a regional champion and used his winnings to have gender reassingnment surgery. It's a beautifully shot film that sheds a different light on the tran community.

@Diane

You might want to check this out! Hmmm, why do I sound like Ebert and Roper?

Lucimara

Hello, I am writing in redrags to ordering your food. I live in Massachusetts and my husband and I eat here all the time when we come to Brooklyn. We absolutely love love love your food. My husbands birthday is coming up, and we are throwing him a surprise party. I would love to have some of his favorites sent here in time for the big day so he could have a birthday treat with the sweet taste of the vspot. If this is something we could do, please let me know. He's a huge fan of your buffalo wings and fried chicken. So when you have time please let me know what I have to do to make this happen if its possible. The party will be April 9th. Thank you for your time and delicious food Huge Fan, Stephanie White

Syamsir

Know who would buy this display a buddy for his other buddy a dad for his son a wife. The more you think about their moiivattons ahead of time, the more you can hone into the products and the messaging. For example, if it were a dad to a son no matter the age you could say something like, You can still be a hero to him and place a picture of a dad and son -maybe holding up a big fish, or a trophy, or the product you are selling. Get the idea? Reply

Florian

Hola en Colombia apenas esta endnarto este sistema, asi que aun la gente esta corriendo detras de el, y se habla como una gran empresa y panacea a las ventas, pero es real lo que dice Bob en mi caso particular hoy tome una oferta en un spa que me costo 75 y que en su normal venta vale 350 un descuento demasiado atractivo ,pero mi pregunta es igual a la de Bob son 20 sesiones o sea cada sesion en el spa recibira , 3,75 sera que si le pagaran a la trabajadora algo? como sobrevivir a ese costo es casi imposible. comparto como consultor de marketing, es un riesgo a largo y mediano plazo embarcarse en groupon, no sabemos su reaccion en esto paises como el nuestro , espero y no se transforme en una piramide como las que casi acaban nuestra economia en af1os anteriores. saludos a todos desde esta hermosa tierra Colombia, y ojala no nos caiga una peste de marketing traida como siempre de tierras mas ricas. Reply

Dharm

wow! that was only day 1?! was nothing like my exeeniprce in nyc but the hubby & i walked all over the place. i truly feel for you .being a fellow migraine sufferer .those wipe me out the entire day! thanks for sharing!

Miriro

i heared that it cusaes skin reddness and skin peeling, is it true? if its true how long will be the reddness and peeling of the skin?one question more that how long it takes time to work? thanks

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