Let's face it, any time you have to get up for work is this:
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I know for a fact that if I had gotten a "time out" when I was younger, I would have laughed my ass off and walked away from the corner they tried to put me in.
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Because we all know how rude it is to talk over people, some just don't give a fuck.
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And yet, when you need your car, he knows EXACTLY where it is
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"Listen buddy, if you think it's funny to try putting your hands on me, or getting in my face, or throwing a tantrum like a two year old, just remember one little thing: I've got NO problem with goin' back to prison."
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And no one knows this better than the retail slaves.
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*click* "If you would like to make a call, please hang up and dial again..."
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Because I'm not pandering to your sense of entitlement.
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Might not be popular, but spanking *really* is only appropriate in some contexts - teaching the kid that what they're doing may hurt them or others. Otherwise you're just teaching them that it's okay to hit when you're angry. And time-outs work just fine for some kids, while redirection works for others. Blanket statements about corporal punishment bother the crap out of me - it just says you're too lazy to actually learn out to parent your kid.
Posted by: RoxyRocketeer | Tuesday, September 18, 2012 at 08:29 AM
I love coming on my favorite websites and having to flash back to being hit as a child. Love it. Wish I knew how to get over it. Hope no child ever gets hit again.
Posted by: Hellbound Alleee | Tuesday, September 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Alleee & Roxy: there's a HUGE difference between a spanking -- which is meant to impose discipline, not cause pain -- and HITTING your child. The first is an act of love, the second is abuse.
As a parent, I know the difference. I have spanked my sons before. A gentle swat on the behind that doesn't cause pain and doesn't leave a mark but still gets their attention. Then I explain what they were doing wrong once I have it. That's a spanking -- and if I turn them over my knee and swat them a few more times, as long as I don't inflict pain or damage, that's discipline. It lets them know they've misbehaved without leaving any marks.
If a parent hits their child so hard they can't sit down for a week because the welts are so painful, that's abuse. See the difference?
Posted by: The Last Archimedean | Tuesday, September 18, 2012 at 12:12 PM
I agree with Archi, I was spanked as a kid, because neither redirection nor time out worked on me. Grounding didn't work either, since my parents would forget about it... Now I don't remember this one, but apparently one time I got it into my head that pain==fun, so my dad decided to show me that pain=/= fun... apparently I told him 'That was fun, I want more' and he had to leave the room.
The last one I disagree with... The second two I agree with, but there's nothing wrong with showing your faith... I pray before each meal for example, in a restaurant or not... And the last line 'don't shove it down children's throats... what are religious people supposed to do then with their kids on Sundays when they're going to church?
Posted by: NumismaticNerd | Tuesday, September 18, 2012 at 04:06 PM
My husband and I were both spanked as kids. It corrected not only any perceived bad behavior, but any future bad behavior. The hubby and I were both afraid of our dads - which, depending on who you ask, can be a good or a bad thing. He harbors no resentment toward his dad, I do against mine.
Anyway, daddy issues aside, some kids it works with and some it doesn't. Hubby's cousin was spanked with a bare hand, a switch or a belt after bad behavior, like hitting other kids, and it never sunk in. Hubby told me a story where his cousin was told not to leave his bedroom or he'd get spanked, and he crossed the threshold anyway. Sure enough, he got spanked, dragged back to his room and warned again. He must have done it five or six times, screaming and crying each time he got his punishment, before his parents just gave up and let him run wild.
Posted by: Mollywobbles | Tuesday, September 18, 2012 at 06:00 PM
You missed the point of the last sentence, NumismaticNerd. It says to not shove it down MY childrens' throats - doesn't say anything about YOUR children. If you are people of belief - whatever type - it is your concern and no-one else's if you take your children to church/synagogue/temple with you. What those of us others are saying is that we'd prefer it if you don't proselytise to OUR children (or us either if it comes to that, actually).
Most of my extended family are xtians of one sort or another. We're the atheists. We don't discuss religion, simple as that.
Posted by: BookishGirl | Tuesday, September 18, 2012 at 09:14 PM
@Numi ~ I think it's meaning not to shove it down the throat of the writer's children...not a christian's own children.
I think I'd prolly do the one with color organizing the cars. >_>
My mom rarely spanked me. If she did, it was more a small swat on the hand to say "Hey! No! Don't mess with that!"
She mostly got down to my eye level, took my by the shoulder's, and had a little talk with me.
Posted by: Spritzy | Tuesday, September 18, 2012 at 09:20 PM
Wow, I swear every post on religion here I got closer to being one of those militant atheists (although technically I'm agnostic) the right swears exist.
I'm also a long time fan of the last saying because 1) It's funny, and 2) It sums up very succinctly the complaints people have about religious zealots.
Is it seriously THAT confusing?
The 'waving around in public part':
- Praying before a meal even at work or in a restaurant = OK
- Standing around with a sign saying "God Hates F-gs" =/= OK
- Wearing clothing or jewelry, or displaying a lawn or car decoration that include symbols of your faith = OK
- Glaring at any retail slave who doesn't specifically say "Merry Christmas" =/= OK
The "shove down Children's throats" part:
- Taking your own children to church and having them attend Sunday school = OK
- Insisting that all children be lead in prayer in public schools =/= OK
- Writing/Directing/Producing religious based books, games, songs, or movies for children = OK
- Trying to get textbooks changed to reflect that the United States is a Christian country when it, purposefully, has no official religion =/= OK
Posted by: Chicajojobe | Wednesday, September 19, 2012 at 05:33 AM
Okay, I did miss the 'my' in the last picture, I read it as 'don't shove it down children's throats' since I've seen it posted on fb like that...
And Chica unfortunately those people do exist... A local middle(?) school for example had a statue/monument of the ten commandments... No one at the school complained and they were there since the school opened... Some group from DC, who had never been to the school in western Pennsylvania wrote a letter threatening lawsuit.
Posted by: NumismaticNerd | Thursday, September 20, 2012 at 08:49 PM