« Hostile Employers Create a Health Problem | Main | Retail Contradictions »

Comments

RoxyRocketeer

Might not be popular, but spanking *really* is only appropriate in some contexts - teaching the kid that what they're doing may hurt them or others. Otherwise you're just teaching them that it's okay to hit when you're angry. And time-outs work just fine for some kids, while redirection works for others. Blanket statements about corporal punishment bother the crap out of me - it just says you're too lazy to actually learn out to parent your kid.

Hellbound Alleee

I love coming on my favorite websites and having to flash back to being hit as a child. Love it. Wish I knew how to get over it. Hope no child ever gets hit again.

The Last Archimedean

Alleee & Roxy: there's a HUGE difference between a spanking -- which is meant to impose discipline, not cause pain -- and HITTING your child. The first is an act of love, the second is abuse.

As a parent, I know the difference. I have spanked my sons before. A gentle swat on the behind that doesn't cause pain and doesn't leave a mark but still gets their attention. Then I explain what they were doing wrong once I have it. That's a spanking -- and if I turn them over my knee and swat them a few more times, as long as I don't inflict pain or damage, that's discipline. It lets them know they've misbehaved without leaving any marks.

If a parent hits their child so hard they can't sit down for a week because the welts are so painful, that's abuse. See the difference?

NumismaticNerd

I agree with Archi, I was spanked as a kid, because neither redirection nor time out worked on me. Grounding didn't work either, since my parents would forget about it... Now I don't remember this one, but apparently one time I got it into my head that pain==fun, so my dad decided to show me that pain=/= fun... apparently I told him 'That was fun, I want more' and he had to leave the room.

The last one I disagree with... The second two I agree with, but there's nothing wrong with showing your faith... I pray before each meal for example, in a restaurant or not... And the last line 'don't shove it down children's throats... what are religious people supposed to do then with their kids on Sundays when they're going to church?

Mollywobbles

My husband and I were both spanked as kids. It corrected not only any perceived bad behavior, but any future bad behavior. The hubby and I were both afraid of our dads - which, depending on who you ask, can be a good or a bad thing. He harbors no resentment toward his dad, I do against mine.

Anyway, daddy issues aside, some kids it works with and some it doesn't. Hubby's cousin was spanked with a bare hand, a switch or a belt after bad behavior, like hitting other kids, and it never sunk in. Hubby told me a story where his cousin was told not to leave his bedroom or he'd get spanked, and he crossed the threshold anyway. Sure enough, he got spanked, dragged back to his room and warned again. He must have done it five or six times, screaming and crying each time he got his punishment, before his parents just gave up and let him run wild.

BookishGirl

You missed the point of the last sentence, NumismaticNerd. It says to not shove it down MY childrens' throats - doesn't say anything about YOUR children. If you are people of belief - whatever type - it is your concern and no-one else's if you take your children to church/synagogue/temple with you. What those of us others are saying is that we'd prefer it if you don't proselytise to OUR children (or us either if it comes to that, actually).

Most of my extended family are xtians of one sort or another. We're the atheists. We don't discuss religion, simple as that.

Spritzy

@Numi ~ I think it's meaning not to shove it down the throat of the writer's children...not a christian's own children.
I think I'd prolly do the one with color organizing the cars. >_>
My mom rarely spanked me. If she did, it was more a small swat on the hand to say "Hey! No! Don't mess with that!"
She mostly got down to my eye level, took my by the shoulder's, and had a little talk with me.

Chicajojobe

Wow, I swear every post on religion here I got closer to being one of those militant atheists (although technically I'm agnostic) the right swears exist.

I'm also a long time fan of the last saying because 1) It's funny, and 2) It sums up very succinctly the complaints people have about religious zealots.

Is it seriously THAT confusing?

The 'waving around in public part':
- Praying before a meal even at work or in a restaurant = OK
- Standing around with a sign saying "God Hates F-gs" =/= OK
- Wearing clothing or jewelry, or displaying a lawn or car decoration that include symbols of your faith = OK
- Glaring at any retail slave who doesn't specifically say "Merry Christmas" =/= OK

The "shove down Children's throats" part:
- Taking your own children to church and having them attend Sunday school = OK
- Insisting that all children be lead in prayer in public schools =/= OK
- Writing/Directing/Producing religious based books, games, songs, or movies for children = OK
- Trying to get textbooks changed to reflect that the United States is a Christian country when it, purposefully, has no official religion =/= OK

NumismaticNerd

Okay, I did miss the 'my' in the last picture, I read it as 'don't shove it down children's throats' since I've seen it posted on fb like that...
And Chica unfortunately those people do exist... A local middle(?) school for example had a statue/monument of the ten commandments... No one at the school complained and they were there since the school opened... Some group from DC, who had never been to the school in western Pennsylvania wrote a letter threatening lawsuit.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment



  • Greetings Curious Scroller,

    If you've never landed in this part of cyber space before, you have taken a hard, fast plunge into the fiery depths of work hell. RHU is dedicated to giving the service worker a voice. If you are an angry customer, a corporate suite, a homophobic race-hater, and you don't like skull masks or swear words, this blog isn't for you. Click away now, before your ears bleed and your eyes explode.

    I'm Freddy, Crypt Keeper of Retail Hell Underground RHU -- a place for service slaves to have a voice, tell their story, support each other, or just have a chuckle about the insanity of working in the 10th Circle of Hell! I'm also the author of "Retail Hell," the funny memoir about life as a handbag sales associate at an upscale department store! The sequel, "Return To The Big Fancy," has just been released in hardcover and e-reader and is available wherever books are sold!

  • TO READ MORE CLICK HERE