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Queer Geek

This is nothing new. Big Fancy did that with a few positions where they considered someone else in mind for the position while quietly posting the job title online. It's sad these things happen but you keep pounding the pavement until some good comes along.

Spritzy

This happens a lot. Many companies require any jobs be posted as part of procedure even if they already have the individual chosen.

Skittles

This might not be a new practice but with a little logic we can see how it has brought us to the current economic circumstances. Clearly the most qualified people are not being hired, if they were then companies would not be under such economic distress. This hiring method is how you get the cronie system into place where only certain people get into positions of any real power or influence. Consider that in the great depression the root cause of all the financial strife was the dust bowl. Now try to find a root cause of financial strife with our current situation.

Eviscerator

Skittles, the great depression was triggered by a collapse in credit and banks loaning out more money than they actually had. The Dustbowl was a concurrent event caused by poor farming practices and exacerbated the poor economy. The Depression made the Dustbowl problems worse than they had to be, but the Dustbowl did not trigger the Depression.

Diane

This is how most jobs in the IT industry are handled. I have a job opening up in my department next August, and I've already alerted three of my students that it's coming and that I want to bring them in for an interview if they haven't found anything by then. I'll still let HR know, and we'll still advertise it, but unless someone extraordinary comes along it will probably go to one of my students.

Nobody

The worst part of this is that they advertise the job opening, review the applications, and do the interviews, and you travel hundreds of miles for an interview for a job that you never had a snowball's chance of getting because they already know who they're going to hire and it's not you. Why don't they just be honest about it!?

Damn Yankee

This just happened to me, less than a month ago in fact. The person chosen is indeed qualified, but the lack of transparency was frustrating to everyone that was hoping to interview for a promotion. Especially since Asshole had spent the last two months promising to let us know of opportunities to advance.

And he wonders why we don't trust him now.

CoG

Something similar happened to me, though in the opposite direction. A business owner came into our class looking to fill a position. A fellow classmate recommended me, saying that I was "the best in the class". I was flattered, and took the job. It was a bad fit for both me and the business. Imagine that.

James

Being in the IT industry I've had this happen to me aswell. To be honest I find this lack of transparency and waste of my time as complete horseshit. I seriously wish they would cut it with this shit.

cheltenham_dude

I've had this happen to me, back when I was at Uni and applying for jobs at a Supermarket (it was the chain that was taken over by Mr M for those in the UK) - I and two other applicants turned up dressed smartly (in my case Shirt, tie, smart trousers and shoes - a suit is useally overdoing it for checkout work) and on time. A fourth guy turned up in jeans (with holes in the knees), grubby t-shirt and trainer shoes, ten minutes late.

First off we did some basic testing (just simple maths to make sure we understood how discount vouchers, etc, worked on a very basic basis) - now at one point the HR person who had handed out the test sheets had to leave the room and this guy started asking us for the answers!

I have no idea what his interview was like, because his was after everyone elses - but about a week later, I got the standard rejection letter then went shopping at the supermarket in question and lo and behold, who were they trying to train on the tills but the dumbass who turned up late!!!

I actually did get a job at that supermarket about 6 months later when they were in the process of changing their practices and logo's over to Mr M - I actually found out at that stage that he had gotten hired because he was the HR manager's nephew (he actually got the boot about a month later) when a new store manager was rotated in (as per Mr M's standard practice where they rotate Store and Deputy Store Managers between stores every 18 - 24 months).

Chicajojobe

Agreed with The Eviscerator. The Dust Bowl was a drought that occurred during The Great Depression. It wasn't the cause of it!

Nocturnesthesia

I see nothing wrong with promoting people who already know their shit, and having new hires start at the bottom. It makes sense in many circumstances. What I don't get is why companies are forced to put up the charade of considering outsiders, they don't want to do it and applicants don't want to be jerked around, it's just fucking stupid. Really I wish more people still took apprentices. Not abusing unpaid interns for a few months and canning them when they get good enough to deserve payment, but real apprenticeships.

The Last Archimedean

Agree with Nocturnesthesia. If the job isn't actually open for outsiders, it shouldn't be posted. I'd rather not go through and apply for a job that the company knows they're not going to hire me for because I'm an outsider.

Skittles

@Eviscerator and Chicajojobe: That is up for debate. The thing you have to consider is what money really is. Money is a promisary note giving the holder the ability to trade it for services or goods(food, materials, and other physical items). The stock market crash that happened would have caused rescession but it would not have gained historical signifigance without actually having fewer available rescources.

lisa

way to dash everyone's hope of getting a job against the rocks hiring within the company shouldn't happen give outsiders a chance they could do the job just as well as people within the company with proper training this economy is in the toilet and a lot of people need jobs so give them jobs don't give people who already have jobs within the company another job its a complete waste of time to post a job interview only to tell the many people hoping to get it they aren't hired cause you already have an insider you are going to hire waste of time don't get anyone's hopes up

Spritzy

@cheltenham_dude I know it sounds moronic...but sometimes people can dress to well for an interview. If a person applying for a minimum wage position shows up in a suit and tie, the hiring manager may think that the applicant will want higher pay or more work hours than the company is willing to give and therefore will dismiss the applicant based on that presumption...it's wrong for them to do that...but it does happen.
But it seems that in the case of grubby guy, it was clearly an incident of nepotism.

Boho

It's all about who you know. That's why networking is so, so important. Colleges can train and teach you, but that won't help you find a job. You have to meet people and get your name out there.

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