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Religious Freak Pervert Update: Triumph!


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The responses on my story surprised the heck out of me, so thank you to RHUers who leaped to my defense and offered advice. (Thanks especially to Google and TenebrisVenator! Fortunately they DID respond in a timely manner, so even though I was prepared to paper trail the hell out of the company, it wasn't necessary.) Here's the update about the Religious Pervert incident you guys asked for:

The next day, I walked in to see what my duties were. (Register, stocking, etc, we cycle through those as scheduled duties, but it's flexible enough for those of us stocking to walk a custy to the registers and ring them up personally if there's a free register and no line.)

Nothing. Nada. I'm not on the list of employees today. I look at the weekly schedule, and yes, I'm supposed to be here, but the DAILY schedule doesn't know I exist. Aha. Okay. I see how it is.

Playing nice, I ask my coworker where the Boss is. Not in. [Other manager] is in today for my scheduled shift. [Other manager] has a set of floating question marks above his head about my "innocent" inquiry. He looks at the weekly, looks at the Daily, scratches his head and tells me to hang loose complete with hand gesture (he moved here from Hawaii, so his slang gives us all grins, usually) and calls the Boss.

He comes back, his expression awkward. He says the Boss fired me for a slew of No Call/No Shows (which didn't exist before this day). [Other manager] is confused and disbelieving because he works with me a lot and he's never even had a whisper of a rumor that I wasn't always on time. And since we works with me regularly, he's usually saying "Good morning" to me as I stand by the time clock.

I thank [Other manager], and walk out. The first time, I called a hotline for the company about what the manager did and does. This hotline is taken down by a third party, and employee complaints are then forwarded to the correct department. They did a lot of typing as I described the first incident.

Today, I call them again. I talk to the girl on the other end of the line and tell her it's an update to my previous incident, give her my name and cellphone number (which I had voluntarily divulged, both to identify my file and to allow someone to get in contact with me) and she opens the file that has already been made. I update her on what happened today. She thanks me for my call, promises my file is already marked Urgent, with a copy forwarded. My update will be appended and forwarded again, as soon as we're done, and to expect a phone call within the next couple of days.

I go to lunch and indulge in some not-good-for-me comfort food to calm my nerves, because I know the real reason why I've been fired, and I'm hacked off.

Freddy Holy CrapI get a call that same afternoon. It's a bigwig, and he's EXTREMELY concerned by my report, tells me he was in the middle of reading it when he got the ding announcing my update had arrived. He gives me this HR spiel about the company being a machine and that even the smaller gears need to be taken care of or the whole machine could seize. Blah blah blah yakkity shmackity. It's corporate sweet talk and pretty words. However, even though he doesn't say so, I get the distinct impression that he's halfway to panic mode and about to do some emergency damage control.

He asks me if I'm okay (emotionally and financially) and asks me if I would be willing to give him 48 hours minimum to look into the situation. He's flying into the area early tomorrow and is going to do a surprise inspection of any and all paperwork potentially created out of this... incident. He'll be in touch with me, one way or another, to either tell me he needs more time, or to tell me the verdict.

I give him the time. Information related to me by Bigwig and coworkers as follows...

Bigwig appeared on the scene and took command of the back room. Boss didn't work that day either. There he finds my employee file, with some no call/no show write ups crammed into it. He's suspicious within five minutes, as the "signatures" on the write ups don't even remotely match my signatures on other documents. I was neither shown these, nor did I sign them. Strike one.

He takes a closer look at the NC/NS papers and they're practically identical; copy/paste text with stuff like "first warning," "second warning," "as you have been warned before" tacked on. Very bare bones, and the company is a big fan of details and attempts via the company to accommodate the employee or otherwise expand upon what the management did to try to remove the problem. None of that happened. Strike two.

Finally, he checks the dates of my supposed write ups, and can't find any notations in the computer. Apparently there's a procedure of dotting I's and crossing T's once a schedule is made. A NC/NS, or a call out sick, or other alterations to a schedule once it's made are to be logged into the system so that there's a digital backup to physical paperwork. So the days I'm supposedly NC/NS aren't even mentioned on this system. It looks normal. One of the days, I was actually present, as seen by my sign in times. The other two were days I had off, as labor laws in my state decreed I was supposed to get. So even if I WAS supposedly slated to work that day, Boss would have been dinged with a labor law violation. I didn't show up because I wasn't SUPPOSED to show up. Strike three.

Carolanne computer 2(As related to me later by other female coworkers) Female coworkers on duty were called back and asked about how Boss handled the incursions of RFP, and their stories corroborated the security video... which Boss also failed to remember that our security cameras also just happen to pick up audio. And the Bigwig spent hours reviewing multiple incursions of the Religious Freak Pervert harassing female workers and grabbing his crotch while staring at them like a sheepdog stares at sheep. He got to see RFP making lewd gestures by positioning large instruments 'just so' and running his hands up and down their length.

(At this point I imagined the Bigwig screaming, "Oh my God burn that! Don't sell it after he touched it!" Wishful thinking, I know, but that went through MY mind when one of my coworkers relayed it to me during one of our RFP horror story times.)

He got to hear Boss admonishing female workers that if RFP didn't actually touch them, there's nothing anyone can do because all he's doing is talking, and cops don't do anything about what people SAY, only what they do, so they'll just have to ignore him. Of course, he was banking on employee ignorance and fear of being fired to keep them quiet.

Apparently the Bigwig gave a lot of horrified, wide eyed silences as their tales of woe came out. He gave up trying to look professional shortly after starting and just let his horrified expressions say how wrongity wrong wrong this shit was. When he left at the end of the 48 hours, he seemed to be contemplating a little nighttime visit to a disused rock quarry.

The verdict? In short, my job is back, with full time pay for the days I missed to be added to my upcoming paycheck. Boss is no longer with the company and his replacement has reviewed with everyone what to do if RFP, or anyone like him, dares to stick their nose through the front door of the shop.

I almost hope RFP comes back, because I want to see the lady who replaced Boss eat RFP alive. She has this dominatrix voice that she can turn on with the bat of an eye and I so VERY much want to see Religious Freak Pervert get Scary Dominatrix Lady instead of meek, intimidated, coworker lady.





Nice. :) Always good when the company actually backs you up, even if it's legally required...


Thanks for the update! I'm glad everything worked out in the end.

Tech Support Survivor

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET! Justice is served! (at least in part). If RFP does return, please update us. We love updates. We also love when creeps like that get what they deserve.


I agree with all of you!

Misty Meanor

So the boss decides to fire you as a form of retaliation while forging evidence, but can't do a good enough job of forging it. And he was caught ignoring RFP on camera. I'm glad he's gone!

I believe the exec you talked to is my new hero. Not as much as you are, but him, too. That he fired your former boss shows that he understands labor law, and the rather nasty liability a hostile work environment carries. As does the pay for the missed days - make no mistake, the firing was *illegal* retaliation, and they had no choice. I suspect that wasn't his only motivation, there, though. That he was personally offended says some good things about him.

And if RFP does show back up, I'd love to hear a detailed account, too, especially if it ends up in a perp walk in handcuffs.

BTW, if he forged your signature on write-ups, that's *criminal*. Were I you, I would seriously consider filing a criminal complaint over it. The guy belongs in prison for that. Maybe ask your new corporate BFF what his opinion on it is, just to gauge his reaction. I suspect he just might support you in that, and including in all future harassment training for management. (I've actually had that experience, back when our harassment training was done by an HR lawyer. He had stories, and it really, really drove home the point: do not allow this crap in your business. You're *at* *least* as liable as the business is, and this training limits their liability and increases yours.)

I wouldn't blame you, though, if you decide it's not worth the bother, because if he fights it, it's a big hassle for you to have to testify.


This was SO satisfying to read!
I am sorry you had to go through all this shit (and reading your encounter with this asshole and your reaction was already gold- I guess I would not been that good, so you are my hero!)--- but my, the outcome was perfect and I am very happy for it!

Thank you so much for sharing- this is like balm for every scarred retail slave.

Love it so much!


Woohoo! Glad to hear you had a happy ending ^w^


I agree with what others have said, seriously consider criminal charges against boss person for forging your signature, that's wrong on far too many levels.

I am SO glad everything is working out for you, and I"m glad the higher ups had your back.

As a female who has had to take sexual harassment from customers in the past (I was super young and naive and management didn't back me up, thus 'had to'), I am disgusted on behalf of anyone who has to work with this asshat in the future.

Story time!

I once had this guy ask me out every day I worked for weeks at Burger King. WEEKS. And he wasn't nice about it, he wasn't taking no for an answer, and he was very....explicit in his suggestions. My boss laughed it off. Well, one day, I got off work and my ride (mom) wasn't there yet, so I told the other people working, including the franchise owner, our boss, "I'm running over to Radio Shack (across the parking lot), can you tell my mom where I am when she gets here to pick me up?" Mom worked the morning shift at the same restaurant, it was a BLAST working with her, but that's a story for another time.

So after I left, dude comes into our store and asks where I am, cause aren't I normally working on X day at Y time? Well, my boss TELLS HIM I WENT TO RADIO SHACK! The guy I've been complaining about for weeks, he gives him my location where I'm NOT within reach of hot fry grease! So he makes his way across the parking lot and corners me in Radio Shack. The dudes behind the counter made him leave when I made it vocally clear that I didn't appreciate his attention. They got him to leave, thankfully.

(He never came back to our store and I later got blamed for the loss of his business, but whatever.) Once I was sure he was gone, I stalked back across the parking lot, into the store, which there weren't any customers in the dining room thankfully, and said flat out "Who told that jerk where I was? Did he LOOK like my mother?" "What do you mean? He just wanted to say hi..." "No, he didn't! He wanted to tell me what disgusting things he wanted to do to me! You NEVER tell anyone where I am unless it's MY MOTHER!" I didn't quit on the spot, but I was leaving shortly for school anyway, so I stuck around until then, but this story reminded me of that, and ugh, I was so happy when that guy lost his franchise cause he couldn't manage it properly.


So very happy you gave us an update and so very glad it came to a satisfying conclusion! Forging your signature is a crazy big-time no-no but I guess it's up to you have far you'd want to take this. Congrats though!

Misty Meanor

You should see about filing criminal charges for the forgery. And Thaliana81, you have my deepest condolences. Your boss sounded like a Grade A jackass!


My deepest sympathies, Thaliana81. No one should EVER have to deal with that.

I'm so glad everything worked out for you, OP, and glad our advice helped. I love a happy ending. On a side note, this sounds like a decent company that genuinely cares, at least based on big wigs behavior and reactions. Obviously, there was a fear of legal action, but his reaction seemed to be on the human, how dare you treat my employees like that, level. As far as criminal charges, it's completely up to you to decide to pursue that, but everyone is correct, forging signatures is super illegal. The company might already be seeing to it, or looking into it.

I would also love to hear an update if RFP comes back in, especially if it involves a handcuffed walk of shame


I got a serious endorphin rush reading how awesome things turned out for you! This is such great news! Congratulations on things turning around for you and the store!

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